Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 04:30:08 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1374 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Mon, 22 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1374 Today's Topics: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands? ORBS$323.2L.AMSAT (2 msgs) Reaching ham-radio buffs in India Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 15:32:57 GMT From: usc!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!jholly@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu The higher class licenses have privilleges in those bands, so they can use them. But what make you think they are not a novice or tech? Your post did not indicate that they were clearly a higher class, just that they used higher speed code. I've worked novice/techs that had no problem with my code speed. And I've worked other extras in the novice bands. I've also found some nice DX around 21.140, both calling cq and answering mine. During novice roundup, I will go and spend some time trying to hand out contacts. So many extras would answer my cq that I had to sign /E. Sometimes, especially on 80, one is limited by the antenna. Perhaps one or both could only get down to the novice sub band because his antenna was cut for the phone band. So CW contacts on the 80 novice sub band was all they could do. I guess the short answer to your question is there is not an accepted practice of not using the novice sub band if you have a higher class license. Except, of course, on 40 meters. 73, Jim, WA6SDM jholly@cup.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: 19 Nov 93 13:49:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$323.2L.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-323.N 2Line Orbital Elements 323.AMSAT HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 19, 1993 BID: $ORBS-323.N DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY: 1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ 2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT AO-10 1 14129U 83058B 93321.57691393 -.00000112 00000-0 10000-3 0 2118 2 14129 27.1956 355.7539 6019652 131.0023 299.1524 2.05880635 78414 UO-11 1 14781U 84021B 93320.59791365 .00000224 00000-0 41964-4 0 6126 2 14781 97.7971 340.1743 0010901 227.3657 132.6634 14.69084435519091 RS-10/11 1 18129U 87054A 93320.53837545 .00000061 00000-0 60485-4 0 8120 2 18129 82.9209 126.0240 0010352 256.4589 103.5413 13.72326438320740 AO-13 1 19216U 88051B 93315.34314830 -.00000053 00000-0 10000-4 0 8137 2 19216 57.8997 284.7483 7226538 327.9276 3.4613 2.09719999 41435 FO-20 1 20480U 90013C 93310.07362541 -.00000005 00000-0 14874-4 0 6071 2 20480 99.0217 139.2984 0541030 125.0547 240.2545 12.83221816175512 AO-21 1 21087U 91006A 93320.47796564 .00000084 00000-0 82657-4 0 3683 2 21087 82.9418 300.1208 0034449 319.1873 40.6687 13.74528168140362 RS-12/13 1 21089U 91007A 93317.61990766 .00000004 00000-0 -23873-5 0 6129 2 21089 82.9233 171.3110 0029494 351.2997 8.7626 13.74029180139048 ARSENE 1 22654U 93031B 93319.82294071 -.00000052 00000-0 10000-3 0 2099 2 22654 1.4256 113.1022 2930832 161.7997 211.8626 1.42202608 2728 UO-14 1 20437U 90005B 93320.70053268 .00000071 00000-0 35429-4 0 9128 2 20437 98.6062 43.2321 0011712 93.9046 266.3482 14.29803677199228 AO-16 1 20439U 90005D 93320.27451247 .00000064 00000-0 32755-4 0 7120 2 20439 98.6124 43.8287 0012274 95.5349 264.7257 14.29860785199173 DO-17 1 20440U 90005E 93320.66928486 .00000060 00000-0 31121-4 0 7121 2 20440 98.6144 44.4763 0012250 94.2945 265.9628 14.29997894199240 WO-18 1 20441U 90005F 93320.22118847 .00000057 00000-0 29710-4 0 7134 2 20441 98.6142 44.0490 0012764 95.8251 264.4402 14.29975696199182 LO-19 1 20442U 90005G 93320.70317511 .00000061 00000-0 31205-4 0 7123 2 20442 98.6151 44.7345 0013139 93.7468 266.5215 14.30068015199267 UO-22 1 21575U 91050B 93320.68042724 .00000105 00000-0 42463-4 0 4124 2 21575 98.4578 34.2356 0006986 200.1876 159.9027 14.36865218122562 KO-23 1 22077U 92052B 93320.59051504 .00000000 00000-0 10000-3 0 3091 2 22077 66.0900 5.1031 0005093 341.0856 18.9960 12.86281800 59446 AO-27 1 22825U 93061C 93320.66241511 .00000070 00000-0 36625-4 0 2111 2 22825 98.6771 33.3777 0009303 106.2143 254.0076 14.27590086 7363 IO-26 1 22826U 93061D 93320.65872634 .00000073 00000-0 37587-4 0 2129 2 22826 98.6768 33.3808 0009869 107.8468 252.3794 14.27692506 7367 KO-25 1 22830U 93061H 93319.73628661 .00000064 00000-0 33726-4 0 2121 2 22830 98.5788 31.9792 0012486 82.0123 278.2466 14.28016160 7236 NOAA-9 1 15427U 84123A 93321.67817478 .00000105 00000-0 66146-4 0 6128 2 15427 99.0821 4.3682 0015882 95.7490 264.5523 14.13562457460466 NOAA-10 1 16969U 86073A 93315.75032400 .00000081 00000-0 42765-4 0 5091 2 16969 98.5140 326.3695 0012248 244.0314 115.9574 14.24842726371642 MET-2/17 1 18820U 88005A 93319.86072672 .00000065 00000-0 52347-4 0 2116 2 18820 82.5421 78.2816 0017893 61.8037 298.4910 13.84697554292837 MET-3/2 1 19336U 88064A 93319.83299665 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 2119 2 19336 82.5384 114.6617 0017926 77.8342 282.4811 13.16962335255171 NOAA-11 1 19531U 88089A 93315.67695101 .00000165 00000-0 99084-4 0 4090 2 19531 99.1508 294.5292 0012515 27.3413 332.8509 14.12931327264500 MET-2/18 1 19851U 89018A 93320.51300057 .00000045 00000-0 35160-4 0 2124 2 19851 82.5191 313.4772 0015680 100.7230 259.5690 13.84349177238266 MET-3/3 1 20305U 89086A 93320.32104910 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 9135 2 20305 82.5525 57.5423 0017403 95.7518 264.5640 13.16021908195110 MET-2/19 1 20670U 90057A 93320.64092393 .00000015 00000-0 79036-5 0 7128 2 20670 82.5491 17.2997 0016711 28.5586 331.6512 13.84181803171211 FY-1/2 1 20788U 90081A 93314.27490495 .00000352 00000-0 25587-3 0 8161 2 20788 98.8528 336.2622 0014224 264.8255 95.1288 14.01329924163048 MET-2/20 1 20826U 90086A 93320.47980517 .00000052 00000-0 42267-4 0 7113 2 20826 82.5249 315.2181 0011921 288.0238 71.9627 13.83563968158341 MET-3/4 1 21232U 91030A 93320.51833216 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 6155 2 21232 82.5409 319.9466 0013471 2.5209 357.5653 13.16456371123379 NOAA-12 1 21263U 91032A 93315.68793624 .00000176 00000-0 87457-4 0 8162 2 21263 98.6427 343.0215 0013434 143.1680 217.0407 14.22331177129619 MET-3/5 1 21655U 91056A 93320.38880675 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 6125 2 21655 82.5551 267.0163 0014334 12.2322 347.9178 13.16825934108458 MET-2/21 1 22782U 93055A 93320.66678128 .00000033 00000-0 25012-4 0 2111 2 22782 82.5521 14.8526 0023798 100.3379 260.0455 13.82991168 10713 MIR 1 16609U 86017A 93321.57070583 .00007939 00000-0 10816-3 0 5866 2 16609 51.6139 168.8603 0005214 358.7317 0.6246 15.58545846443041 HUBBLE 1 20580U 90037B 93320.38852573 .00000748 00000-0 63165-4 0 3620 2 20580 28.4687 163.2233 0004748 200.0009 160.0464 14.92922012194272 GRO 1 21225U 91027B 93321.24933334 .00018416 00000-0 19624-3 0 2224 2 21225 28.4618 264.6526 0074975 90.1642 270.7885 15.58731637 24209 UARS 1 21701U 91063B 93315.59270845 -.00001996 00000-0 -16511-3 0 4125 2 21701 56.9842 310.8939 0005642 92.8950 267.4094 14.96195848118366 POSAT 1 22829U 93 61 G 93289.11726978 .00000072 00000-0 37231-4 0 2042 2 22829 98.6763 2.0610 0010043 184.4594 175.6498 14.27975951 2862 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 21 Nov 93 20:12:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$323.2L.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-323.N 2Line Orbital Elements 323.AMSAT HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX November 19, 1993 BID: $ORBS-323.N DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY: 1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ 2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT AO-10 1 14129U 83058B 93321.57691393 -.00000112 00000-0 10000-3 0 2118 2 14129 27.1956 355.7539 6019652 131.0023 299.1524 2.05880635 78414 UO-11 1 14781U 84021B 93320.59791365 .00000224 00000-0 41964-4 0 6126 2 14781 97.7971 340.1743 0010901 227.3657 132.6634 14.69084435519091 RS-10/11 1 18129U 87054A 93320.53837545 .00000061 00000-0 60485-4 0 8120 2 18129 82.9209 126.0240 0010352 256.4589 103.5413 13.72326438320740 AO-13 1 19216U 88051B 93315.34314830 -.00000053 00000-0 10000-4 0 8137 2 19216 57.8997 284.7483 7226538 327.9276 3.4613 2.09719999 41435 FO-20 1 20480U 90013C 93310.07362541 -.00000005 00000-0 14874-4 0 6071 2 20480 99.0217 139.2984 0541030 125.0547 240.2545 12.83221816175512 AO-21 1 21087U 91006A 93320.47796564 .00000084 00000-0 82657-4 0 3683 2 21087 82.9418 300.1208 0034449 319.1873 40.6687 13.74528168140362 RS-12/13 1 21089U 91007A 93317.61990766 .00000004 00000-0 -23873-5 0 6129 2 21089 82.9233 171.3110 0029494 351.2997 8.7626 13.74029180139048 ARSENE 1 22654U 93031B 93319.82294071 -.00000052 00000-0 10000-3 0 2099 2 22654 1.4256 113.1022 2930832 161.7997 211.8626 1.42202608 2728 UO-14 1 20437U 90005B 93320.70053268 .00000071 00000-0 35429-4 0 9128 2 20437 98.6062 43.2321 0011712 93.9046 266.3482 14.29803677199228 AO-16 1 20439U 90005D 93320.27451247 .00000064 00000-0 32755-4 0 7120 2 20439 98.6124 43.8287 0012274 95.5349 264.7257 14.29860785199173 DO-17 1 20440U 90005E 93320.66928486 .00000060 00000-0 31121-4 0 7121 2 20440 98.6144 44.4763 0012250 94.2945 265.9628 14.29997894199240 WO-18 1 20441U 90005F 93320.22118847 .00000057 00000-0 29710-4 0 7134 2 20441 98.6142 44.0490 0012764 95.8251 264.4402 14.29975696199182 LO-19 1 20442U 90005G 93320.70317511 .00000061 00000-0 31205-4 0 7123 2 20442 98.6151 44.7345 0013139 93.7468 266.5215 14.30068015199267 UO-22 1 21575U 91050B 93320.68042724 .00000105 00000-0 42463-4 0 4124 2 21575 98.4578 34.2356 0006986 200.1876 159.9027 14.36865218122562 KO-23 1 22077U 92052B 93320.59051504 .00000000 00000-0 10000-3 0 3091 2 22077 66.0900 5.1031 0005093 341.0856 18.9960 12.86281800 59446 AO-27 1 22825U 93061C 93320.66241511 .00000070 00000-0 36625-4 0 2111 2 22825 98.6771 33.3777 0009303 106.2143 254.0076 14.27590086 7363 IO-26 1 22826U 93061D 93320.65872634 .00000073 00000-0 37587-4 0 2129 2 22826 98.6768 33.3808 0009869 107.8468 252.3794 14.27692506 7367 KO-25 1 22830U 93061H 93319.73628661 .00000064 00000-0 33726-4 0 2121 2 22830 98.5788 31.9792 0012486 82.0123 278.2466 14.28016160 7236 NOAA-9 1 15427U 84123A 93321.67817478 .00000105 00000-0 66146-4 0 6128 2 15427 99.0821 4.3682 0015882 95.7490 264.5523 14.13562457460466 NOAA-10 1 16969U 86073A 93315.75032400 .00000081 00000-0 42765-4 0 5091 2 16969 98.5140 326.3695 0012248 244.0314 115.9574 14.24842726371642 MET-2/17 1 18820U 88005A 93319.86072672 .00000065 00000-0 52347-4 0 2116 2 18820 82.5421 78.2816 0017893 61.8037 298.4910 13.84697554292837 MET-3/2 1 19336U 88064A 93319.83299665 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 2119 2 19336 82.5384 114.6617 0017926 77.8342 282.4811 13.16962335255171 NOAA-11 1 19531U 88089A 93315.67695101 .00000165 00000-0 99084-4 0 4090 2 19531 99.1508 294.5292 0012515 27.3413 332.8509 14.12931327264500 MET-2/18 1 19851U 89018A 93320.51300057 .00000045 00000-0 35160-4 0 2124 2 19851 82.5191 313.4772 0015680 100.7230 259.5690 13.84349177238266 MET-3/3 1 20305U 89086A 93320.32104910 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 9135 2 20305 82.5525 57.5423 0017403 95.7518 264.5640 13.16021908195110 MET-2/19 1 20670U 90057A 93320.64092393 .00000015 00000-0 79036-5 0 7128 2 20670 82.5491 17.2997 0016711 28.5586 331.6512 13.84181803171211 FY-1/2 1 20788U 90081A 93314.27490495 .00000352 00000-0 25587-3 0 8161 2 20788 98.8528 336.2622 0014224 264.8255 95.1288 14.01329924163048 MET-2/20 1 20826U 90086A 93320.47980517 .00000052 00000-0 42267-4 0 7113 2 20826 82.5249 315.2181 0011921 288.0238 71.9627 13.83563968158341 MET-3/4 1 21232U 91030A 93320.51833216 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 6155 2 21232 82.5409 319.9466 0013471 2.5209 357.5653 13.16456371123379 NOAA-12 1 21263U 91032A 93315.68793624 .00000176 00000-0 87457-4 0 8162 2 21263 98.6427 343.0215 0013434 143.1680 217.0407 14.22331177129619 MET-3/5 1 21655U 91056A 93320.38880675 .00000043 00000-0 10000-3 0 6125 2 21655 82.5551 267.0163 0014334 12.2322 347.9178 13.16825934108458 MET-2/21 1 22782U 93055A 93320.66678128 .00000033 00000-0 25012-4 0 2111 2 22782 82.5521 14.8526 0023798 100.3379 260.0455 13.82991168 10713 MIR 1 16609U 86017A 93321.57070583 .00007939 00000-0 10816-3 0 5866 2 16609 51.6139 168.8603 0005214 358.7317 0.6246 15.58545846443041 HUBBLE 1 20580U 90037B 93320.38852573 .00000748 00000-0 63165-4 0 3620 2 20580 28.4687 163.2233 0004748 200.0009 160.0464 14.92922012194272 GRO 1 21225U 91027B 93321.24933334 .00018416 00000-0 19624-3 0 2224 2 21225 28.4618 264.6526 0074975 90.1642 270.7885 15.58731637 24209 UARS 1 21701U 91063B 93315.59270845 -.00001996 00000-0 -16511-3 0 4125 2 21701 56.9842 310.8939 0005642 92.8950 267.4094 14.96195848118366 POSAT 1 22829U 93 61 G 93289.11726978 .00000072 00000-0 37231-4 0 2042 2 22829 98.6763 2.0610 0010043 184.4594 175.6498 14.27975951 2862 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 21 Nov 93 16:53:31 GMT From: gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!newsserver.egr.uri.edu!ramli@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: Reaching ham-radio buffs in India To: info-hams@ucsd.edu A friend of mine who is a member of the URI Ham Club wants to contact people in India via ham radio. He says that he has not been able to contact any one so far. If you have been able to talk to people in India, he will be delighted to hear from you. If you wish to respond, please send him email at: macinnes@ele.uri.edu (Craig Macinnes) Please do not respond to this account. Thanks in advance. Ramli. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1993 16:27:09 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!concert!ecsgate!bruce.uncg.edu!mosier.uncg.edu!mosier@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References , <2cg0lr$dgd@oak.oakland.edu>, Subject : Re: TEN TEC OMNI V OWNERS!!! SORRY FOR THE SLOPPY POST ON THE FIRST OF THESE In article <2cg0lr$dgd@oak.oakland.edu> prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) writes: >: I have an OMNI VI, so the bells and whistles comment doesn't apply (it > > >I'm not one to flame Steve, but he was asking about the Omni V, not the >Omni IV which, as any TenTec head knows, has a lot of DSP toys, so your >comment doesn't apply. I agree, if I want CG, I'll buy a Sony 2010. >73 paul wb8zjl I did indeed say that the bells & whistles part of the OMNI VI doesn't apply to the discussion, Paul. But the receiver quality between the V and the VI is basically the same -- DSP has nothing to do with that. The point is that the OMNI V (and VI) are some of the best basic receiver designs around, IF you can satisfy your SW needs with the Sony. steve mosier@fagan.uncg.edu steve mosier@fagan.uncg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 15:52:11 GMT From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!jayk@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1993Nov13.230920.10981@anasazi.com>, , <1993Nov16.070549.16005@anasazi.com> Reply-To : jayk@fc.hp.com Subject : Re: DSP units Can you center the CW filters on the DSP-9 to the frequency of your choice? I prefer to listen to a 400 Hz note instead of the usual 700 or 800 Hz. 73, Jay K0GU jayk@fc.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1993 16:23:05 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!concert!ecsgate!bruce.uncg.edu!mosier.uncg.edu!mosier@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2cds4a$gci@oak.oakland.edu>, , <2cg0lr$dgd@oak.oakland.edu> Subject : Re: TEN TEC OMNI V OWNERS!!! In article <2cg0lr$dgd@oak.oakland.edu> prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) writes: >: I have an OMNI VI, so the bells and whistles comment doesn't apply (it > > >I'm not one to flame Steve, but he was asking about the Omni V, not the >Omni IV which, as any TenTec head knows, has a lot of DSP toys, so your >comment doesn't apply. I agree, if I want CG, I'll buy a Sony 2010. >73 paul wb8zjl I did indeed say said that the bells & whistles part of the OMNI VI doesn't apply to the discussion, Paul. But the receiver quality between the V and the VI is basically the same -- DSP has nothing to do with that. The point is that the OMNI V (and VI) are some of the best basic receiver designs around, IF you can satisfy your SW needs with the Sony. Crystal mixed oscillators w/ low phase noise. steve mosier@fagan.uncg.edu ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1374 ****************************** ******************************